Possible Photograph of
Joseph Smith Jr.
Allegedly from a Smith Family Photo Album, Possibly Reprinted from a daguerrotype, for sure matches the Death Mask of Joseph Smith
“photographic Artist” Joseph Slocum Bibbins’ Father taught Emma Smith in Harmony Pennsylvania, and he lived in the same County as Joseph Smith III when this Carte de Viste was Printed
See Links above for my several pages of Research
“photographic Artist” Joseph Slocum Bibbins’ Father taught Emma Smith in Harmony Pennsylvania, and he lived in the same County as Joseph Smith III when this Carte de Viste was Printed
See Links above for my several pages of Research
Figure 3 Carte-de-Viste of an 1840s Illinois Man, from a Smith Family Photo Album. Contrast upped to show he is wearing a silk like scarf, wrapped more than once and a collar popped down, all the up to his jaw.
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Figure 4 Abraham Lincoln 1846, wearing a scarf, double wrapped and a collar all the way up to his jaw.
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Not only does my old CDV match the death mask, but he matches 1840s style clothing, and is wearing a similar jacket and his vest is a real match for a vest we still have today- worn by Joseph Smith Jr.
Below you can see Lincoln in later 1850s, then 1860s, his collar is much lower, he has a starched bowtie, that is NOT the 1840s soft scarf anymore.
My page on clothing styles of the 1840s:
https://www.plausiblephotographofjosephsmithjunior.com/clothing-of-the-1840s.html
Below you can see Lincoln in later 1850s, then 1860s, his collar is much lower, he has a starched bowtie, that is NOT the 1840s soft scarf anymore.
My page on clothing styles of the 1840s:
https://www.plausiblephotographofjosephsmithjunior.com/clothing-of-the-1840s.html
Figure 5 Abraham Lincoln 1854. his tie is modern, not a scarf, not double wrapped and his collar is inches below his jaw.
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Abraham Lincoln 1857, clearly scarves double wrapped were not in style in the 1850s, collar is very low.
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I found a matching vest in a 1984 Ensign article (which I saw in person this year at the Pioneer Memorial Museum). 3 The two vests were so similar, in their horizontal stripes, the dark swirls in my image’s vest, are explained by black swirls stitched over the satin stripes, even the cross striations matched in the same location. https://www.lds.org/study/ensign/1984/01/from-the-prophets-life-a-photo-essay?lang=eng
Finding out that my image was a CDV at first meant that it could not be what Joseph Smith III talked about, in a very well known letter he wrote, because it was paper and not a daguerreotype, but in studying history of photography it could be either a reprint from a paper photograph (calotype process was around years before Joseph Smith died), or a reprint from a daguerreotype (Emma Smith's CDV...). The reason people are actually looking for a photograph of Joseph Smith, is because, his son Joseph Smith III said to the Salt Lake Tribune, March 20, 1910:
"I do regret the statement made, that there is no authentic picture of my father in existence, for this is a mistake... visit the capitol of Iowa, [you] will find a duplicate oil painting of Joseph Smith in one of the halls...
There is an authentic oil painting... at Independence, Mo... this portrait... is sustained in it's characteristic likeness to my father by the daguerreotype in our possession, taken the same year, I think, by an artist by the name of Lucian Foster...
Mr. Ramsey... the expression about the lower part of the face, taken from the death mask, which I saw... gives too full prominence to the lips and chin... I am enclosing a photograph taken from the oil painting referred to.
Yours truly,
Joseph Smith..." 2
We find Joseph Smith III countering claims of there not being a photograph of Joseph Smith, I believe one historian told me, in an email, came from John Taylor, as he was trying to get a realistic bust done of Joseph, in England- said that he didn't personally know of a photograph of Joseph Smith. This statement appears to have been quoted, in the Salt Lake Tribune, angering Joseph Smith III and debunked by him in 1910. Some Utahns argue that they believe J.S. III lied about his father's plural marriages in the 1800s, so of course he would LIE about having a daguerreotype of his father. The eldest son, of Joseph Smith and Emma, states that he has a daguerreotype of his father, Joseph Smith Jr. (or Sr. if you read statements after J.S. Sr. died, note- sometimes J.S. III called himself Joseph Smith Jr...), by Lucian Foster.
Lucian Foster was on Joseph Smith's Presidential Campaign in May 1844. His statement checks out in my opinion and if you see my page About the Photographer, you will see how similar Emma's 1845 daguerreotype, maybe also done by Foster, same background (reprinted on to a CDV) matches my CDV, from a Smith Family Photo Album.
https://www.plausiblephotographofjosephsmithjunior.com/the-photographer.html
"I do regret the statement made, that there is no authentic picture of my father in existence, for this is a mistake... visit the capitol of Iowa, [you] will find a duplicate oil painting of Joseph Smith in one of the halls...
There is an authentic oil painting... at Independence, Mo... this portrait... is sustained in it's characteristic likeness to my father by the daguerreotype in our possession, taken the same year, I think, by an artist by the name of Lucian Foster...
Mr. Ramsey... the expression about the lower part of the face, taken from the death mask, which I saw... gives too full prominence to the lips and chin... I am enclosing a photograph taken from the oil painting referred to.
Yours truly,
Joseph Smith..." 2
We find Joseph Smith III countering claims of there not being a photograph of Joseph Smith, I believe one historian told me, in an email, came from John Taylor, as he was trying to get a realistic bust done of Joseph, in England- said that he didn't personally know of a photograph of Joseph Smith. This statement appears to have been quoted, in the Salt Lake Tribune, angering Joseph Smith III and debunked by him in 1910. Some Utahns argue that they believe J.S. III lied about his father's plural marriages in the 1800s, so of course he would LIE about having a daguerreotype of his father. The eldest son, of Joseph Smith and Emma, states that he has a daguerreotype of his father, Joseph Smith Jr. (or Sr. if you read statements after J.S. Sr. died, note- sometimes J.S. III called himself Joseph Smith Jr...), by Lucian Foster.
Lucian Foster was on Joseph Smith's Presidential Campaign in May 1844. His statement checks out in my opinion and if you see my page About the Photographer, you will see how similar Emma's 1845 daguerreotype, maybe also done by Foster, same background (reprinted on to a CDV) matches my CDV, from a Smith Family Photo Album.
https://www.plausiblephotographofjosephsmithjunior.com/the-photographer.html
Photograph of painting, sent to the library of Congress in 1879, when Emma Smith died. JS III wrote about there being a duplicate oil painting of the Rogers painting and I believe he simply photographed the "duplicate" oil painting, which shows more flaws??
Painting of Joseph Smith by David Rogers, and "sustained" in it's likeness by Joseph Smith III, using a daguerreotype of his father. Rogers clearly took some artistic liberties in how he gave him a fuller head of hair than he had three months Prior, as this is September 1842...
Painting by Sutcliffe Maudsley, June 1842. Joseph appears to have a receding hairline and not nearly as much hair as Rogers painted him with, three months LATER...
Sources:
1: https://juvenileinstructor.org/daguerreotype-of-joseph-smith-wearing-the-urim-and-thummim-caution-this-will-disturb-you/
2: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5922&context=etd
3: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1984/01/from-the-prophets-life-a-photo-essay?lang=eng
1: https://juvenileinstructor.org/daguerreotype-of-joseph-smith-wearing-the-urim-and-thummim-caution-this-will-disturb-you/
2: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5922&context=etd
3: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1984/01/from-the-prophets-life-a-photo-essay?lang=eng
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